The jury is out...

SRXThunder · Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 10:50 am Post subject: The jury is out...

in the civil suit against Tommy Lee. The parents of the little boy who drowned at his sons b-day party are sueing him for 10 million dollars. Don't know how to feel on this one. I don't believe in sueing people. I think it's a very abused portion of our legal system. On the other hand, a childs life was lost at a function hosted and sponsered by Mr. Lee. As he's the host I would expect him, as a parent myself, to ensure the saftey, health, and well being of all who attend. With that said, apparently the parents of the child who drowned sent the childs nanny with him. She was suppose to be watching over the child. Apparently she left to take another child to the restroom when the little boy fell in the pool. So, she did drop the ball, but again, it was Tommy's responsibility (in my opinion) to ensure the saftey of the guests. By California law the jury can assign a percentage of responsibility of the accident to each person involved. Tommy would only be responsible for whatever percentage the jury found him guilty for. How much responsibility should Tommy have to except on this one? I'm still undecided on this one.
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Drainman · Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 3:58 pm Post subject:

20% at the most. big party, lotsa people.

SRXThunder · Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 7:23 pm Post subject:

Scott, being a dad and having b-day parties for your kids, and also letting your kids go to another parents home for parties, what's your take?
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vwall · Posted: Thu Apr 17, 2003 11:56 pm Post subject:

Money cant replace a life!

Money cant replace lost limbs etc from accidents but helps to pay for a new living style without legs or arms...

So money can help a handicapped body to make expiation for a new way to live.

But money cant replace a life...

So is greed the root?

Will 10 Million dollars HEAL your pain of a lost child...

NO!
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SRXThunder · Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 4:37 am Post subject:

Totaly agree, that was my point behind the sue happy state of our justice system. But beyond that, who's responsible for the saftey and well being of the child in this instance? The way I see it if I let my daughter go to someones house for a birthday party I let her go in the good faith that the parents chaperoning the event will keep an eye on all the childeren. If I have a question in regards to my childs saftey or what they may be exposed to while in someone elses care I don't let her go. Beyond the civil suit, do you think there should be a criminal suit filed? Yes, it was purley an accident, but if I'm involved in a car accident and someone dies and they find I was being neglagent behind the wheel I face man slaughter charges. So, was Tommy Lee negligant? Is he, in this instance, ultimatley responsible for these children? I'm really starting to lean towards this train of thought. The more I think about it the I think that a 10 million dollar civil suit against him is letting him off easy. Maybe I'm to protective of a parent, but if my child is in the care of another adult I expect them to exercise the same amount of responsibility that I do. Am I expecting too much?
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vwall · Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 9:30 am Post subject:

I don't know all the fact and the details of the story...

But I also believe that everything happens for a reason, whether our minds can rationalize it or not.

so no matter what, that child that passed on was taken for a purpose that only God knows...

As far as manslaughter charges.. I cant negate this issue as it is a moral question for each person to decide.

I cant walk around judging one man or the others fate based on how I feel.

That's what too many ppl do today....
In fact, in their hearts they are poisoning...

Put it this way, if you were Tommy, and a total freak accident happened like this, would you want to fear life in prison for this?
Or a law suit?

Im not defending him, im just saying that accidents happen and ppl die. and life and death is not ours to give or take away.

Now, to answer your Q with a synopsis, if the adults were all under the influence of alcohol or drugs, then there should be a criminal suit for negligence.
Not that I condone suits or not; but according to the law of this land, our government has instituted..
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SRXThunder · Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2003 9:46 am Post subject:

"Now, to answer your Q with a synopsis, if the adults were all under the influence of alcohol or drugs, then there should be a criminal suit for negligence.
Not that I condone suits or not; but according to the law of this land, our government has instituted"

Hmmm...didn't look at it from that angel. Very good point. Anyway, jury has adjourned. They found Tommy 0% at fault for the accident so I guess my armchair Dreamteaming is irrelavent now.
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grrlgoyle · Kitten Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Posts: 126 Location: Alabama

I gotta throw my 2 cents in here with the twisted way my mind works. Knowing there are a lot of sick parents out there that would do just about anything to get money,attention,or whatever else thier screwed up minds may be thinking, this could have been a set up of sorts. Seeing as they sent thier nanny with thier child, that nanny was in full responsibility of that child. Mr.Lee was hosting the party, but the nanny was there for the sole purpose of ensuring that childs wellbeing. They could have been conspiring with the nanny to get money for whatever sick reason they had. Not every parent out there is as caring as you guys, but you have to keep in mind there are a lot of sick *Golly Gee* out there that we have yet to understand why they do what they do.

grrlgoyle · Kitten Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Posts: 126 Location: Alabama

There was a woman in my state, not far from where I live that was convicted for the death of her daughter a few years ago. Recently she was put in jail again for endangering the life of a child. Her son, which she wasn't even supposed to have custody of, was found wandering a county road several miles from where she was staying. The child was halucinating and was tested and found to be on 4 different types of cough syrup. She was a drug user herself. And you must remember all thhe parents out there that look at thier children as a curse, adn use the death, abuse, wrongdoings against thier child, etc. as a way to derive whatever they may be after out of it. I hate the fact that we have to share the planet with people like this, but as long as we do we should be able to punish them as we see fit.